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Post by Hyp3r on Feb 3, 2014 18:55:24 GMT -7
We make it for it with effects, scenes, etc. People gotta get out of their basic assumptions and not take what we do as a joke. SFs can be just as good, or better than other genres of work because of what we put into it. We give the fight life and make it exciting and entertaining...
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liss
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Post by liss on Feb 3, 2014 19:21:54 GMT -7
So true Hyp3r. You know, another thing I remember from Hatena is how the popular youtube animators (creators who did asdf spin offs for example) would comment in their flips how it took them forever to finish it, but their forever was only a week or two. I hated how flips that could be animated in such a short time could get so popular, everytime. I hope the new collector system on fn 3d will fix that.
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Post by j29736 on Feb 3, 2014 23:00:46 GMT -7
here's a video of me testing out the demo.
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Post by Sforzando on Feb 4, 2014 7:41:37 GMT -7
I swear, stickfights are not easy to make. Anybody who condemns stickfighting as easy never made a stickfight! The ShinyEevee/Fleesveon crowd on the other hand I have to be honest, I kind of hate that style a lot. Mainly because it became so generic and overused. "Popular" flips were always MVs with eevees or wolves and I can't begin to express my distaste for them.
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Post by Sforzando on Feb 4, 2014 12:45:45 GMT -7
Anyway back on topic So the next SudoMemo update will apparently have 1. posting again 2. comments 3. channels so swag right?
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Post by logic on Feb 4, 2014 13:05:10 GMT -7
What the furry pokemen fan of Hatena think of SF - OMG stick fights are easy to make. What the furry pokemon fans actually make- Barely any movement, the characters are small stubs and every scene has a big eye opening up in every mv, the audio is stolen, they complain that it took them forever to make a flipnote but that was a week to make (That or they're just lazy) No actual effects but words moving and "Explosions" in a black background. Read more: flipnote.proboards.com/thread/304/sudomemo-discussion?page=2#ixzz2sO1DmSkO
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liss
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Post by liss on Feb 4, 2014 13:53:51 GMT -7
Don't forget that every mv started out all innocent and happy and then all of a sudden the character gets a creepy smile and red eyes...tries to kill things..
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Post by liss on Feb 4, 2014 14:05:48 GMT -7
Oh and I also forgot to mention that nearly every mv had dozens of pages saying 'saving space'. I downloaded some of those mvs and there was lots of space left to use for animating. I guarantee you those creators were lazy and could only animate a few positions.
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Post by GameRat101 on Feb 4, 2014 14:54:25 GMT -7
I swear, stickfights are not easy to make. Anybody who condemns stickfighting as easy never made a stickfight! The ShinyEevee/Fleesveon crowd on the other hand I have to be honest, I kind of hate that style a lot. Mainly because it became so generic and overused. "Popular" flips were always MVs with eevees or wolves and I can't begin to express my distaste for them. Don't forget Squirt's style. That one's way overused. And I don't like MVs. Especially the ones that have pop music and "GORE AND BLOOD SO SPOOKY AHHH"
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Post by logic on Feb 4, 2014 15:35:41 GMT -7
`reading this stuff now makes me feel as if everyone put sf next to stolen flipnotes and "Cancer add stars"
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Post by Nightpoppy? on Feb 4, 2014 17:38:40 GMT -7
To be honest, I liked how some creator's animation were, but...then seeing SF animation my head exploded from amazingness. I enjoy using blood in flipnotes sometimes, but not like OOH LOOK IT'S BLOOD IT'S SCURRY, I used it in my series. As in if in fighting scenes, obviously there's going to be blood, you're fighting with blades and fists. And don't forget all the love Flipnotes that did nothing but have hearts everywhere and poorly drawn O.C.s smiling. And then that's it. Great use of imaginiation and creativity there. Creating a stick fight is very hard for me, but over time I have gotten a little better. Usuallyendsupinadragonfightormythicalcreaturefight
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Post by romanlegend on Feb 4, 2014 22:16:04 GMT -7
Sorry for getting off topic but i have too add to this usually stickfighters were the BEST animators of hatena. we put in the longest animation, most practice, and the most effort.
we learn how bodies move best. We also learned how to create and use FX in the best way. Learning how to animate stickfigures almost certainly leads to amazing fullbody. Once you learn how to animate well in 2D, we would move onto what we call "3D", which means angles and perspective. After that you could start practicing fullbody, which is very advanced and takes a lot more work. With the animating skills of a stickfighter and artistic skills, you can become one heck of a animator.
When your good at animating stickfigures, you can do anything a MVer can do (we just dont want to animate dancing chibi furries, pokemon making jokes, or lower are standards to the select tool) and more People called us lazy but they dont look at the actual work in it
but then an mver on the other cant do jack if they try stickfighting.
This isn't towards all MVers/Pvers or whatever. I actually think that there are talented animators out there (Not Stickfighters) But it angers me when most of them try and overlook us or think of stickfighters as the "lower class" of animators. Please ill take on any of you famous Mvers/Pvers/whatever Any day in a competition of who has more skill in animation
This reminds of a certain song... lol can any of you guess?
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Post by liss on Feb 5, 2014 7:14:19 GMT -7
Looks like everybody finished their rant. So now back to Sudomemo. I'm not sure how successful it will be in the long run considering pokemon bank got released to Europe yesterday and will soon be in North America, allowing for Nintendo to (maybe) spend more resources on getting flipnote studio 3d released to the other countries within a few months. Only time will tell though.
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Post by D.Shark on Feb 5, 2014 10:04:54 GMT -7
Well said Jason I agree many out there put down stick fighters and never attempted to try it out for there selves and it can be difficult at times trying to create unique battle themes and styles and honestly I like watching almost any type of sf and everyone has there own special style I even like watching people who are new to stick fights and seeing there style change and develop its quite exciting and heart racing at times and also there are some mvrs who are very talented with there skills and they don't put down people like JamesMCjon he was a mvr/stick fighter he did both and his skills were great anyone can be great at animating in every category but there is a running trend out there were these people use the same style and unoriginality it makes the taste sour and it gets old but many seem to like it but in my opinion the trend is getting old and we need to make some new,unique,animations then animations that are plain and is a trend and they shouldn't critiseize and slander others art and we should respect each others art and work either if they do mvs,stick fights,fullbody whatsoever we should encourage them to try being more creative in styles ect. But anyways that's what I had to say see you all around God bless you all.
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Post by liss on Feb 5, 2014 16:58:29 GMT -7
Update on sudomemo: the chat is available now!
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Post by Sforzando on Feb 6, 2014 9:25:11 GMT -7
So Sudofox asked for suggestions for channels; here is my ideal channel list, if I had to come up with 9. Channels: 1.) MVs 2.) Comedy 3.) Animals and Furries 4.) RPs 5.) Action 6.) Original Audio 7.) Series 8.) Fandoms 9.) Other
I feel like this is ideal since it covers every category pretty well, but IDK whether people will be able to post in more than one channel. If so, people would abuse it as always and post their Flipnote in every channel, thus defeating the porpoise purpose.
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liss
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Post by liss on Feb 6, 2014 13:04:02 GMT -7
I still think a Stick figure/Stick fight channel should be made so all the stick flips can be grouped together, similar to how you have the animals and furries grouped into a channel.
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Post by romanlegend on Feb 7, 2014 17:40:16 GMT -7
I think everyone should also be able to create a channel again Everyone has plans for series and all, it be nice if we could just find the channel to watch a series
and the other thing is our own customizable creators room heeeeeelll yeeaah
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Post by liss on Feb 7, 2014 17:44:09 GMT -7
Well, on another note, you can post flipnotes now.
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Post by acro on Feb 9, 2014 14:40:34 GMT -7
Well its going pretty fine on their I see I just got it last night from a old FH friend who told me on facebook. I see some people uploading like D.Shark, Trust, and liss. Those are all the videos I've seen so far from who I know. Theres too many Rp's and WIP Mvs and Pvs everywhere though. There all basically the same unless you actually put the talented ones who actually do recent stuff in the concern. Less noobs though some what. I see a couple of good Sfers I've never seen before. Its decent I cant message any of my friends though. And I havent seen any Rate me 1-10. people yet lol. There always in chat rooms. I posted 2 things on their though.
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